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		By: rsotc		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rightsideofthechart.com/tbt-stop-hit-for-3-1-2-loss/#comment-6988&quot;&gt;jumpingbean&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, yesterday&#039;s drop &amp; especially the big gap down was larger than I anticipated when I added the trade. In that original post, I stated my concerns for that trade, including the following:

&quot;While this is certainly a counter-trend trend, which increases the odds that it may not pan out as we don’t yet have any decent sell signals on long-term Treasuries...&quot; as well as &quot;I will also add that a pullback in Treasuries doesn’t particularly align with a sharp drop in the stock market from here so if equities continue to sell off impulsively in the coming days to weeks without a decent snap-back rally, that would likely, but not necessarily, provide a headwind for a short trade on US Treasury Bonds, as they are typically a flight-to-safety asset class which tends to rally during stock market corrections.&quot;

Yesterday was the biggest drop of the year &amp; one of the biggest single-day drops in years and as such, the flight-to-safety bid for Treasuries was certainly one of the driving factors behind the rally in TLT as well as the ramp-up in the trade wars which further increased the odds of a recession, thereby pushing down long-term interest rate forecasts (and long-term Treasury yields along with it).

The TBT trade was also a quasi-indirect hedge against an equity short position because had the stock market rallied for even just a day or two after TBT was added, Treasuries would have likely had the minor pullback with TBT hitting that shallow target but things went the other way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rightsideofthechart.com/tbt-stop-hit-for-3-1-2-loss/#comment-6988">jumpingbean</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, yesterday&#8217;s drop &#038; especially the big gap down was larger than I anticipated when I added the trade. In that original post, I stated my concerns for that trade, including the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;While this is certainly a counter-trend trend, which increases the odds that it may not pan out as we don’t yet have any decent sell signals on long-term Treasuries&#8230;&#8221; as well as &#8220;I will also add that a pullback in Treasuries doesn’t particularly align with a sharp drop in the stock market from here so if equities continue to sell off impulsively in the coming days to weeks without a decent snap-back rally, that would likely, but not necessarily, provide a headwind for a short trade on US Treasury Bonds, as they are typically a flight-to-safety asset class which tends to rally during stock market corrections.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yesterday was the biggest drop of the year &#038; one of the biggest single-day drops in years and as such, the flight-to-safety bid for Treasuries was certainly one of the driving factors behind the rally in TLT as well as the ramp-up in the trade wars which further increased the odds of a recession, thereby pushing down long-term interest rate forecasts (and long-term Treasury yields along with it).</p>
<p>The TBT trade was also a quasi-indirect hedge against an equity short position because had the stock market rallied for even just a day or two after TBT was added, Treasuries would have likely had the minor pullback with TBT hitting that shallow target but things went the other way.</p>
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		By: jumpingbean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2019 15:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fundamentally speaking, is it because the market is tanking and so people are moving money into treasuries hence TLT going up? Or it&#039;s for some other reason?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fundamentally speaking, is it because the market is tanking and so people are moving money into treasuries hence TLT going up? Or it&#8217;s for some other reason?</p>
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