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		By: snp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2016 19:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&#039;http://rightsideofthechart.com/members/rsotc/&#039;&gt;@rsotc&lt;/a&gt;- I understand your position.  all the trades I think at one point were winners.  how about suggesting taking some profits, letting the second half run, and setting stops at B/E so your members can profit?  not sure by your posts that that is being done here.  
also I think as I commented, 18 months of price support has to count for something so that first bounce was fairly logical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://rightsideofthechart.com/members/rsotc/'>@rsotc</a>&#8211; I understand your position.  all the trades I think at one point were winners.  how about suggesting taking some profits, letting the second half run, and setting stops at B/E so your members can profit?  not sure by your posts that that is being done here.<br />
also I think as I commented, 18 months of price support has to count for something so that first bounce was fairly logical.</p>
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		By: rsotc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2016 13:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rightsideofthechart.com/short-trades-category-updated-market-commentary/#comment-2602&quot;&gt;snp&lt;/a&gt;.

I appreciate your thoughts on this but once again have to respectfully disagree. Of course, in hindsight it is easy to say these, or any, short trades that had an initial bounce that exceeded the point where they broke down below a wedge were shorted &quot;too early&quot; but I&#039;ve traded hundreds, if not thousands of wedge breakouts, long &amp; short (falling &amp; rising wedges) over the years &amp; can say this: Sometimes, like with most of these recent trades, you do get that initial snap-back rally that takes prices above (when shorting rising wedge) or below (when going long on a bullish falling wedge breakout) the level where prices broke out of the wedge &amp; sometimes you don&#039;t. If I get some time today, I will share some examples of wedge breakouts where prices either exploded higher (as wedges often act as coiled springs) or at least never looked back, with the stock continuing in the direction of the breakout without any reactions or snap-backs to or even near the entry point until the trade was very profitable. 

Sometimes I will initiate a short position at the top (or bottom) of a wedge, sometimes while prices are still within the wedge &amp; sometimes even on an overshoot of the wedge at times (somewhat rare but one of the highest &lt;abbr class=&#039;c2c-text-hover&#039; title=&#039;Risk-to-Reward Ratio. e.g.- a 3:1 R/R would entail risking $1 of loss for every $3 of profit potential on the trade.&#039;&gt;R/R&lt;/abbr&gt; trade entries when they happen). I will say with the utmost confidence, that the failure of the trades above is almost exclusively or at least largely due to the fact that many of those trades were entered around the time that the broad markets broke down below those 2 month trading ranges but failed as despite clearly bearish chart patterns, the rally in the broad markets following that false breakdown just over two weeks ago, particularly in the $NDX/QQQ, which has the biggest impact on those tech related trades, was the primary reason that each of those trades experienced a snap-back rally which took them back above the entry point &amp; to the relatively tight suggested stops that I decided to list on those trades as the trend in the market was (and still is) indeterminable/sideways at the time.

As I stated in the video last week, that breakdown in the market below the trading range a couple of weeks ago was confirmed by just above every metric possible that you want to see for a breakdown &amp; I would short it again just as I shorted the similar breakdown below the late 2015 trading range following the New Year&#039;s gap (a perfect example of how some breakdowns are immediately followed by impulsive selling &amp; never offered those waiting for a snap-back rally back above the breakdown level a chance to get in, instead leaving them long or in cash for one of the most profitable shorting opps in years).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rightsideofthechart.com/short-trades-category-updated-market-commentary/#comment-2602">snp</a>.</p>
<p>I appreciate your thoughts on this but once again have to respectfully disagree. Of course, in hindsight it is easy to say these, or any, short trades that had an initial bounce that exceeded the point where they broke down below a wedge were shorted &#8220;too early&#8221; but I&#8217;ve traded hundreds, if not thousands of wedge breakouts, long &#038; short (falling &#038; rising wedges) over the years &#038; can say this: Sometimes, like with most of these recent trades, you do get that initial snap-back rally that takes prices above (when shorting rising wedge) or below (when going long on a bullish falling wedge breakout) the level where prices broke out of the wedge &#038; sometimes you don&#8217;t. If I get some time today, I will share some examples of wedge breakouts where prices either exploded higher (as wedges often act as coiled springs) or at least never looked back, with the stock continuing in the direction of the breakout without any reactions or snap-backs to or even near the entry point until the trade was very profitable. </p>
<p>Sometimes I will initiate a short position at the top (or bottom) of a wedge, sometimes while prices are still within the wedge &#038; sometimes even on an overshoot of the wedge at times (somewhat rare but one of the highest <abbr class='c2c-text-hover' title='Risk-to-Reward Ratio. e.g.- a 3:1 R/R would entail risking $1 of loss for every $3 of profit potential on the trade.'>R/R</abbr> trade entries when they happen). I will say with the utmost confidence, that the failure of the trades above is almost exclusively or at least largely due to the fact that many of those trades were entered around the time that the broad markets broke down below those 2 month trading ranges but failed as despite clearly bearish chart patterns, the rally in the broad markets following that false breakdown just over two weeks ago, particularly in the $NDX/QQQ, which has the biggest impact on those tech related trades, was the primary reason that each of those trades experienced a snap-back rally which took them back above the entry point &#038; to the relatively tight suggested stops that I decided to list on those trades as the trend in the market was (and still is) indeterminable/sideways at the time.</p>
<p>As I stated in the video last week, that breakdown in the market below the trading range a couple of weeks ago was confirmed by just above every metric possible that you want to see for a breakdown &#038; I would short it again just as I shorted the similar breakdown below the late 2015 trading range following the New Year&#8217;s gap (a perfect example of how some breakdowns are immediately followed by impulsive selling &#038; never offered those waiting for a snap-back rally back above the breakdown level a chance to get in, instead leaving them long or in cash for one of the most profitable shorting opps in years).</p>
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		By: jegersmart		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, I thought that&#039;s what you meant and I agree to an extent - I prefer to get in early or at least as close to my stop as possible - but it was just the way it came across lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I thought that&#8217;s what you meant and I agree to an extent &#8211; I prefer to get in early or at least as close to my stop as possible &#8211; but it was just the way it came across lol</p>
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		By: snp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rightsideofthechart.com/short-trades-category-updated-market-commentary/#comment-2603&quot;&gt;jegersmart&lt;/a&gt;.

you may misunderstand: an example would be shorting from the upper line of a wedge rather than the breakdown out of the wedge. or equal.  short from upper resistance, not break downs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rightsideofthechart.com/short-trades-category-updated-market-commentary/#comment-2603">jegersmart</a>.</p>
<p>you may misunderstand: an example would be shorting from the upper line of a wedge rather than the breakdown out of the wedge. or equal.  short from upper resistance, not break downs.</p>
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		By: jegersmart		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2016 08:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Short from a higher level? I don&#039;t think anyone would disagree with your &quot;strategy&quot;...lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short from a higher level? I don&#8217;t think anyone would disagree with your &#8220;strategy&#8221;&#8230;lol</p>
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		By: snp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would say these were all fairly predictable.  a better strategy would be to set shorting levels higher and take profits when you have them.  no one ever went broke taking a profit.  as I have said there is a pattern here of shorting on the breakdown, staying in too long, and watching the trade move negative.  hate to say it but often the stop levels on these trades are the levels where I start becoming interested.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say these were all fairly predictable.  a better strategy would be to set shorting levels higher and take profits when you have them.  no one ever went broke taking a profit.  as I have said there is a pattern here of shorting on the breakdown, staying in too long, and watching the trade move negative.  hate to say it but often the stop levels on these trades are the levels where I start becoming interested.</p>
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