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		By: rsotc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 18:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rightsideofthechart.com/just-extreme-bullish-sentiment-stock-market/#comment-4046&quot;&gt;sur non&lt;/a&gt;.

This is market is more similar to the dot.com bubble that popped in March 2000 than the housing/credit bubble that popped in Oct 2007, actually worse &lt;abbr class=&#039;c2c-text-hover&#039; title=&#039;In My Opinion&#039;&gt;IMO&lt;/abbr&gt;. Right now the economy is firing on all cylinders so I get the reason that so many are bullish. Earning are up, share buybacks have reduced the float of outstanding shares but how much of that has already been priced in? The biggest problems that I see are two-fold:
1) Valuations are now higher that the 100 years preceded the final thrust of the dot.com bubble from 1998-2000.
2) Interest rates have (virtually) nowhere to go from here but up. Look at a 40+ year chart of interest rates (treasury yields). We are clearly at the end of a 36+ year secular bear market in interest rates. At the very best, rates stay this low for the next several years to come but odds favor that a new bull market in rates will begin soon or already has begun. The extreme valuations in the stock market now are being justified by the unnaturally low interest rates, which the Fed did to A) bail out the banks during the financial crisis and B) force money out of safe-haven fixed-income investments (bonds) into stocks in order to juice the market &amp; thereby, bolster consumer confidence (which in turn increases consumer spending).

The reason that I think the next bear market will be worse than those that followed the dot.com bubble in 2000 &amp; the housing/credit bubble in 2007 is that for the first time in history, the Fed no longer has the options of embarking on an aggressive rate cutting cycle as they have done in the past to mitigate &amp; attempt to stave off recessions. Not only do the effectively have little to no room to lower rates but as they still haven&#039;t unwound their balance sheet after the massive &amp; unprecedented bond buying from several rounds of &lt;abbr class=&#039;c2c-text-hover&#039; title=&#039;Quantitative easing (QE) is a type of monetary policy used by central banks to stimulate the economy when standard monetary policy has become ineffective.&#039;&gt;QE&lt;/abbr&gt; in recent year, that option is very limited now as well.

Bottom line is that the next bear market is likely to be much longer &amp; potentially deeper than any in recent history. Until then, money managers are buying because they have no choice.They know, as we do, that valuations are at nose-bleed levels but as long as the general public keeps pumping money into their IRAs, 401ks, mutual funds, the fund managers must deploy those inflows into stocks as per their investment objectives &amp; mandate (most funds are required to be close to fully invested with a minimal position in cash). Add to that is the fact that even IF they could go to 100% cash, in the cut-throat world of money management, they can not afford to underperform the market for long or they are out.

When the tide turns (more outflows than inflows), there will be some tremendous profits to be made on the short-side and not just quick hit-and-run trading opps like we&#039;ve seen over the last several years. Some time in the foreseeable future buy &amp; hold or buy-the-dips will be replaced with short &amp; sit tight as well as short-the-rips. Until then, the market will continue to party like it&#039;s 1999.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rightsideofthechart.com/just-extreme-bullish-sentiment-stock-market/#comment-4046">sur non</a>.</p>
<p>This is market is more similar to the dot.com bubble that popped in March 2000 than the housing/credit bubble that popped in Oct 2007, actually worse <abbr class='c2c-text-hover' title='In My Opinion'>IMO</abbr>. Right now the economy is firing on all cylinders so I get the reason that so many are bullish. Earning are up, share buybacks have reduced the float of outstanding shares but how much of that has already been priced in? The biggest problems that I see are two-fold:<br />
1) Valuations are now higher that the 100 years preceded the final thrust of the dot.com bubble from 1998-2000.<br />
2) Interest rates have (virtually) nowhere to go from here but up. Look at a 40+ year chart of interest rates (treasury yields). We are clearly at the end of a 36+ year secular bear market in interest rates. At the very best, rates stay this low for the next several years to come but odds favor that a new bull market in rates will begin soon or already has begun. The extreme valuations in the stock market now are being justified by the unnaturally low interest rates, which the Fed did to A) bail out the banks during the financial crisis and B) force money out of safe-haven fixed-income investments (bonds) into stocks in order to juice the market &#038; thereby, bolster consumer confidence (which in turn increases consumer spending).</p>
<p>The reason that I think the next bear market will be worse than those that followed the dot.com bubble in 2000 &#038; the housing/credit bubble in 2007 is that for the first time in history, the Fed no longer has the options of embarking on an aggressive rate cutting cycle as they have done in the past to mitigate &#038; attempt to stave off recessions. Not only do the effectively have little to no room to lower rates but as they still haven&#8217;t unwound their balance sheet after the massive &#038; unprecedented bond buying from several rounds of <abbr class='c2c-text-hover' title='Quantitative easing (QE) is a type of monetary policy used by central banks to stimulate the economy when standard monetary policy has become ineffective.'>QE</abbr> in recent year, that option is very limited now as well.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that the next bear market is likely to be much longer &#038; potentially deeper than any in recent history. Until then, money managers are buying because they have no choice.They know, as we do, that valuations are at nose-bleed levels but as long as the general public keeps pumping money into their IRAs, 401ks, mutual funds, the fund managers must deploy those inflows into stocks as per their investment objectives &#038; mandate (most funds are required to be close to fully invested with a minimal position in cash). Add to that is the fact that even IF they could go to 100% cash, in the cut-throat world of money management, they can not afford to underperform the market for long or they are out.</p>
<p>When the tide turns (more outflows than inflows), there will be some tremendous profits to be made on the short-side and not just quick hit-and-run trading opps like we&#8217;ve seen over the last several years. Some time in the foreseeable future buy &#038; hold or buy-the-dips will be replaced with short &#038; sit tight as well as short-the-rips. Until then, the market will continue to party like it&#8217;s 1999.</p>
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		By: sur non		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lot of people will never forget &#039;08.  Not supposed to.  An argument might be made that &quot;sentiment&quot; is the mother of all indicators.  I am light years way from being sophisticated in these matters but I just don&#039;t know how one dismisses this chart and keeps trading...unless they&#039;re short.  By short, I mean one Literally Becomes a Short and views each and every trade as a potential short. It may be a slight exaggeration to state that only Jesse Livermore got it right in &#039;29 - he was short.  (He gave it all back later).  I have my height marked on the kitchen doorframe and every morning I stand against the marks with my coffee while repeating the mantra &quot;I Am a Short, I Am a Short...&quot; .  So far, it just isn&#039;t working...wait...it just occurred to me that if I pull the chair away from my computer, back up and view this chart while standing on my head, everything will make sense.  I&#039;m going to try that now...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lot of people will never forget &#8217;08.  Not supposed to.  An argument might be made that &#8220;sentiment&#8221; is the mother of all indicators.  I am light years way from being sophisticated in these matters but I just don&#8217;t know how one dismisses this chart and keeps trading&#8230;unless they&#8217;re short.  By short, I mean one Literally Becomes a Short and views each and every trade as a potential short. It may be a slight exaggeration to state that only Jesse Livermore got it right in &#8217;29 &#8211; he was short.  (He gave it all back later).  I have my height marked on the kitchen doorframe and every morning I stand against the marks with my coffee while repeating the mantra &#8220;I Am a Short, I Am a Short&#8230;&#8221; .  So far, it just isn&#8217;t working&#8230;wait&#8230;it just occurred to me that if I pull the chair away from my computer, back up and view this chart while standing on my head, everything will make sense.  I&#8217;m going to try that now&#8230;</p>
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		By: rsotc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rightsideofthechart.com/just-extreme-bullish-sentiment-stock-market/#comment-4040&quot;&gt;rksleung&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s just intraday noise; programmed trades, &lt;abbr class=&#039;c2c-text-hover&#039; title=&#039;High-Frequency Trading. A program trading platform that uses powerful computers to transact a large number of orders at very fast speeds.&#039;&gt;HFT&lt;/abbr&gt;, algos buying &amp; selling,etc.. Best to ignore the intraday rips &amp; dips unless day trading. Swing traders should be more concerned with the technical developments on the 60-minute, daily &amp; weekly charts. The trend in the broad market remains bullish for now and &quot;they&quot; isn&#039;t an invisible hand, the PPT, Goldman Sachs, or any other single entity. &quot;They&quot; is the compilation of all market participants &amp; once the tide begins to shift with more sellers than buyers, the market will correct

Other than a very large, bearish engulfing candle or series of bearish candles in the form of a high-probability reversal pattern, QQQ could fall over 1% right now with virtually zero technical damage done to the bullish trend. Even a drop of 10% from here wouldn&#039;t inflict much, if any technical damage on the daily chart, assuming it was an orderly pullback.

These extreme sentiment readings can get &quot;more extreme&quot; or they can start to abate now but still take weeks or even months to manifest in the form of a correction but with the recent near vertical ramp since the first trading day of the year, I suspect the reversal will be equally as swift once it sets in. Speculative accounts, such as hedge funds, have accelerated their buildup of net-long S&amp;P 500 futures positions. Part of this is hedge funds unwinding their portfolio hedges (source: WSJ.com). That drastic reduction in hedging increases the risk of a flash-crash or at least a very swift correction.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rightsideofthechart.com/just-extreme-bullish-sentiment-stock-market/#comment-4040">rksleung</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just intraday noise; programmed trades, <abbr class='c2c-text-hover' title='High-Frequency Trading. A program trading platform that uses powerful computers to transact a large number of orders at very fast speeds.'>HFT</abbr>, algos buying &#038; selling,etc.. Best to ignore the intraday rips &#038; dips unless day trading. Swing traders should be more concerned with the technical developments on the 60-minute, daily &#038; weekly charts. The trend in the broad market remains bullish for now and &#8220;they&#8221; isn&#8217;t an invisible hand, the PPT, Goldman Sachs, or any other single entity. &#8220;They&#8221; is the compilation of all market participants &#038; once the tide begins to shift with more sellers than buyers, the market will correct</p>
<p>Other than a very large, bearish engulfing candle or series of bearish candles in the form of a high-probability reversal pattern, QQQ could fall over 1% right now with virtually zero technical damage done to the bullish trend. Even a drop of 10% from here wouldn&#8217;t inflict much, if any technical damage on the daily chart, assuming it was an orderly pullback.</p>
<p>These extreme sentiment readings can get &#8220;more extreme&#8221; or they can start to abate now but still take weeks or even months to manifest in the form of a correction but with the recent near vertical ramp since the first trading day of the year, I suspect the reversal will be equally as swift once it sets in. Speculative accounts, such as hedge funds, have accelerated their buildup of net-long S&#038;P 500 futures positions. Part of this is hedge funds unwinding their portfolio hedges (source: WSJ.com). That drastic reduction in hedging increases the risk of a flash-crash or at least a very swift correction.</p>
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		By: GetItRiight		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have never seen an RSI like the hourly on XBI at 93. Everybody fears of missing out. Unbelievable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never seen an RSI like the hourly on XBI at 93. Everybody fears of missing out. Unbelievable.</p>
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		By: rksleung		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Check out the last 10 minutes of QQQ. Was dropping towards 169 and then in 1 minutes pushed up 30 cents back to 169.3. You really think they will allow it to fall?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the last 10 minutes of QQQ. Was dropping towards 169 and then in 1 minutes pushed up 30 cents back to 169.3. You really think they will allow it to fall?</p>
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