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		By: rsotc		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rightsideofthechart.com/hl-trade-entry/#comment-2376&quot;&gt;j1persi&lt;/a&gt;.

j1persi- Yes, I do think that HL will see at least the second target (5.69) long before December &amp; quite likely &lt;abbr class=&#039;c2c-text-hover&#039; title=&#039;Third Profit Target&#039;&gt;T3&lt;/abbr&gt; but that&#039;s just my opinion so take it fwiw. Be very careful when trading options, particularly without a hedging strategy to minimize/quantify your losses if wrong. If your buying puts, they way that I would look at it is an all-or-none bet: This trade will either play out, at least hitting &lt;abbr class=&#039;c2c-text-hover&#039; title=&#039;Second Profit Target&#039;&gt;T2&lt;/abbr&gt; well before those puts expire in Dec, causing the price to soar &amp; likely providing a triple-digit return OR it won&#039;t, in which case you will likely watch the value of those puts melt down to the point where it&#039;s hardly worth closing them out to cut your losses by the time it become apparent that the trade isn&#039;t playing out as expected, thereby just watching the puts expire worthless.

If that is the case then one approach would be to calculate how much you would be willing to lose if you shorted the shares &amp; were stopped out. e.g.- If you might normally short $10k with an 8% stop allowance (for a $800 loss), then you could buy $800 (or maybe even just $400) of puts, thereby losing the same amount if they expire while quite likely making as much, possible more, than you would have if you shorted the shares &amp; that target was hit.

The main difference between buying puts &amp; shorting the shares (beside the leverage factor) is that timing is crucial on options &amp; not so much with shorting, as the stock could trade sideways for many months without being stopped out &amp; finally going on to hit your target. I&#039;m sure you know that but just wanted to share for the board as I would normally encourage newer traders &amp; investors to stay clear of options unless they have don&#039;t a lot of due diligence &amp; fully understand the risks. Best of luck on the trade!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rightsideofthechart.com/hl-trade-entry/#comment-2376">j1persi</a>.</p>
<p>j1persi- Yes, I do think that HL will see at least the second target (5.69) long before December &#038; quite likely <abbr class='c2c-text-hover' title='Third Profit Target'>T3</abbr> but that&#8217;s just my opinion so take it fwiw. Be very careful when trading options, particularly without a hedging strategy to minimize/quantify your losses if wrong. If your buying puts, they way that I would look at it is an all-or-none bet: This trade will either play out, at least hitting <abbr class='c2c-text-hover' title='Second Profit Target'>T2</abbr> well before those puts expire in Dec, causing the price to soar &#038; likely providing a triple-digit return OR it won&#8217;t, in which case you will likely watch the value of those puts melt down to the point where it&#8217;s hardly worth closing them out to cut your losses by the time it become apparent that the trade isn&#8217;t playing out as expected, thereby just watching the puts expire worthless.</p>
<p>If that is the case then one approach would be to calculate how much you would be willing to lose if you shorted the shares &#038; were stopped out. e.g.- If you might normally short $10k with an 8% stop allowance (for a $800 loss), then you could buy $800 (or maybe even just $400) of puts, thereby losing the same amount if they expire while quite likely making as much, possible more, than you would have if you shorted the shares &#038; that target was hit.</p>
<p>The main difference between buying puts &#038; shorting the shares (beside the leverage factor) is that timing is crucial on options &#038; not so much with shorting, as the stock could trade sideways for many months without being stopped out &#038; finally going on to hit your target. I&#8217;m sure you know that but just wanted to share for the board as I would normally encourage newer traders &#038; investors to stay clear of options unless they have don&#8217;t a lot of due diligence &#038; fully understand the risks. Best of luck on the trade!</p>
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		By: j1persi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In December puts 6 strike @.52 . Do you think decemeber is plenty of time?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In December puts 6 strike @.52 . Do you think decemeber is plenty of time?</p>
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