Comments on: CL (Crude Futures) Bearish Rising Wedge Pattern

By: irawood

irawood — Tue, 17 May 2016 21:23:03 +0000

the k-1’s are especially a problem when you receive them after you have already done your taxes. They do not have to have them out by january 31

By: jupiter

jupiter — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:35:23 +0000

Thank you Art, Schooner and Randy, for your fine comments;
I will look at XLE and XOP as “substitutes” at this point, although eventually I
would like to do the USO on options when skilled.

By: schooner

schooner — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:20:35 +0000

I don’t know — USO has broken out of its’ larger wedge pretty clearly and crude just broke to new highs taking out the 48.40 pivot. If you put a parallel line on the USO it looks to me like it can trade up to about 12.50ish. I’ll post a chart.

By: rsotc

rsotc — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:19:14 +0000

In reply to jupiter.

jupiter- It seems that most commodity based ETFs are structure as MLP’s which kick out those K-1’s. Even OIL (a more direct play on $WTI than USO) issues K-1s if I recall. As Art suggested, there’s always options although I strongly urge anyone not experienced & familiar with options to avoid them or at least learn as much as you can before sticking your toes in the water with trading options.
Although not a direct play on crude, you could trade XLE, XOP or any of the other non-MLP energy related ETFs as the energy stocks will likely fall if crude does.

By: rsotc

rsotc — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:12:52 +0000

In reply to Gaucho. It could although there are times where the ethanol producers seem to be trading out of sync with crude prices so it's hard to say if PEIX will drop if crude breaks down.

By: schooner

schooner — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:12:21 +0000

In reply to jupiter. I also avoid trading stuff that will give me K1s in taxable accounts. You could trade the futures but I wouldn't do it if you aren't an experienced futures trader. Crude futures are kind of a world of their own.

By: Art

Art — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:04:18 +0000

In reply to jupiter. Hi Jupiter use USO puts for an idea

By: jupiter

jupiter — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:01:00 +0000

Is there another ETF we can trade other than USO, because of the K-1 form at income tax time for USO? Thanks much.

By: Gaucho

Gaucho — Tue, 17 May 2016 18:58:47 +0000

Hi Randy, could this bearish in CL could impact (bearish or bullish?) PEIX ?
Regards